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I think that you’re probably, certainly onto something. Josh: I think that’s a great perspective that you have. But yeah, I always had a difficulty seeing prog in what we’re doing. I don’t think anybody’s put it quite like that. If you know you guys, you can feel the Dylan influences and some of that singer-songwriter stuff in the same way that you have hard rock bands that go in the direction of the more acoustic stuff. Where people hear prog in this, I hear the melding of the hard rock and the folk. We create the songs under the aesthetic and the feeling and the meaning of what the album is.īaltin: We talked about your folk influences. Sam: I also think it all lives under the same idea because it is the same idea. So it just seems like it’s spread over time, as far as everything was written. And then you’ve got "Caravel" and "The Barbarians," which were written last year. But then there are tracks on this album that were written in the studio. We never put it on an album because we didn’t think it really suited the demeanor of those particular albums. Like "Heat Above" was written five years ago. It’s just a strange album in the time everything was written in. But yeah, they do seem a little bit more contemporary. It definitely fit the world of that album. That was the beautiful thing, it was sort of like the cherry on top. Josh: But they did sound like the Garden’s Gate album. And I think that’s a testament to where we're going as a band. And "The Barbarians" we kind of hold back more on the instrumentation rather than layering a thousand things in.
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Like in "Caravel," the first half of the second chorus, gets taken over by strings. However, I would say musically there’s kind of some interesting maturity to those two songs.
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Sam: Perhaps, largely I think that they really blend in sonically with the other songs. Sam: I think they were necessary additions.īaltin: What were the last two additions?īaltin: When you guys go back and listen to it, do you feel a difference in those last two songs? Did you feel that the newer songs felt more timely? And I can’t imagine the album without them. And I guess some silver lining with 2020 is we had time to add an additional two songs to make 12. Trying to find the right amount of time to record in between vigorous touring, we were only going to have time to do about ten songs. And then we were pretty much finished by 2020. Josh: We started recording in the summer of 2019. Josh: Drinking wine, smoking a little grass.īaltin: How much of this record was done before the pandemic started? Sam: Writing songs, making love, drinking wine. Sort of building out album packaging and visual representations of that sonic aesthetic thing. I’m kinda just keeping busy writing and playing. I may buy a house but I just like the idea of being a troubadour.īaltin: Then how have you handled the next year of not being able to be a troubadour? I do not like the idea of being in one place. Our company is based out of Nashville, of course. We are in and out of Nashville all of the time. I suppose we needed somewhere to hunker down in the pandemic country. Josh Kiszka: We needed to do something about that.